Wait, "has to be hardwired"? I could have sworn the demo one in my local vinfast store had the same NEMA plug as my oven? 🤔
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At least the US version does not come with a plug. It has to be wired directly to the home.
Just checked my notes from when I visited my nearest (Guelph Ontario, Canada) dealer for a "VIP event" about 8 weeks ago. They were definitely offering a Vinfast home charger with a NEMA 14-50 OR hardwired at that time
With that much electricity. I would never plug. Hardwire is the best. Especially the higher amps. Just remove your plug from the box and turn it into a junction box and add the wire needed to match your amps.Just checked my notes from when I visited my nearest (Guelph Ontario, Canada) dealer for a "VIP event" about 8 weeks ago. They were definitely offering a Vinfast home charger with a NEMA 14-50 OR hardwired at that time
Wait, really? Do you hardwire the other side into your car too? 😜With that much electricity. I would never plug.
More seriously... You're plugging one side in/out of your car probably 300+ times per year, but you're not OK having a beefier, more permanent, less dusty, less-(ab)used plug/socket on the other side of the unit? 🤔
Having one the other side would make it easier to take with you when you move, or even just take camping - many of our campsites have 240V NEMA 14-50 for RVs.
Is there a good reason to trust CCS connectors much much more than NEMA ones?
Wait, really? Do you hardwire the other side into your car too? 😜
More seriously... You're plugging one side in/out of your car probably 300+ times per year, but you're not OK having a beefier, more permanent, less dusty, less-(ab)used plug/socket on the other side of the unit? 🤔
Having one the other side would make it easier to take with you when you move, or even just take camping - many of our campsites have 240V NEMA 14-50 for RVs.
Is there a good reason to trust CCS connectors much much more than NEMA ones?
First of all CCS is level 3 charging. I think you meant J1772.
second of all look up the difference. I am not saying you can’t plug it in but it is still easy to unscrew 3 wires if you want to “take it with you”
Here is the first article I found when I searched “hardwire vs plug with EV charger”
Article link
“Regarding safety, most professionals suggest hardwired systems are safer to operate than plug-in ones. There are several reasons why this is so...”
... but equally, and perhaps less biassed, How to Choose the Best Home Wall Charger for Your Electric Vehicle - Consumer Reports
"We favor the plug-in type because of the portability; these chargers are easy to take with you when you move or even when you’re on vacation, should you rent a home. Make sure you order the right charger for the plug you have: A four-prong outlet requires what’s called a NEMA 14-50 plug, while a three-prong outlet requires a NEMA 6-50 plug"
... but does later say "For applications above 48 amps, it’s recommended that the EVSE is hardwired"
Interesting! 🤔
"We favor the plug-in type because of the portability; these chargers are easy to take with you when you move or even when you’re on vacation, should you rent a home. Make sure you order the right charger for the plug you have: A four-prong outlet requires what’s called a NEMA 14-50 plug, while a three-prong outlet requires a NEMA 6-50 plug"
... but does later say "For applications above 48 amps, it’s recommended that the EVSE is hardwired"
Interesting! 🤔
I was just replying to your slightly snarky comment of:... but equally, and perhaps less biassed, How to Choose the Best Home Wall Charger for Your Electric Vehicle - Consumer Reports
"We favor the plug-in type because of the portability; these chargers are easy to take with you when you move or even when you’re on vacation, should you rent a home. Make sure you order the right charger for the plug you have: A four-prong outlet requires what’s called a NEMA 14-50 plug, while a three-prong outlet requires a NEMA 6-50 plug"
... but does later say "For applications above 48 amps, it’s recommended that the EVSE is hardwired"
Interesting! 🤔
“Wait, really? Do you hardwire the other side into your car too?”
So yes I accept your apology 😛😌 now that you accepted the fact that the higher the amps the more recommended hard wire is. It’s all fun here
I just know that rivian and Tesla only allow their chargers to be hardwired and they state that if you want to plug it in (no matter the amps) that it voids the warranty of the charger.
Oh totally all good fun, yup, hence why I thought it would be OK to be a teeny bit snarky about haard-wiring the other side of the charger too 😜accept your apology [...] It’s all fun here
I had a quick chat with the "unbiased EV advice" people at Plug 'n' Drive - they slightly prefer the NEMA installation option, for approx the reasons I mentioned (ability to take it to a vacation home / campsite once in a while), but they did also mention another time you may want to hardwire:
Harder to steal! People generally hard wire if it’s accessible or outside. No difference in terms of function. Hope this helps.
Honestly the vehicles comes with a portable charger with normal 110V outlet and then 240V outlet attachments. So technically it does become a lvl 2 charger. Maybe not 25 miles per hour charge rate but I think 10 - 13 miles per hour charge rate.
Oh Interesting! Anyone got the Specs of the North American "Vinfast Portable Charger"? Is it the same as / similar to the EU one https://vinfastauto.eu/en/charging ?
- Mode 2 charging (Basic charging)
- Type 2 AC connector
- Up to 3.5kW (1-phase, 16A)
- Charging time for 10-100% of battery capacity ≈ 13,3 hours (may not be for VF8/VF9)
- Overheat protection: Yes
- Length: 5.5m
When using the 110 outlet it pulls max 13 amps guessing as I can not adjust that any higher when plugged in on car. Cable is probably 20ft.
With CE it was going to take around 20hrs to trickle charge from 64 to 80
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With CE it was going to take around 20hrs to trickle charge from 64 to 80
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